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Eternal Titans

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Tournament Information

ETS Weekly - Top 8
March 3, 2018
1st

Details

Shiftstone Cost
Does not include campaign cost
59,250

Premium Cost
228,000

Influence Requirements
2 2 2

Power Sources
14 15 13 17

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Deck Rarities
15 17 23 12

Card Types
28 10 12 0 25

Archetype
Midrange

Added
March 4, 2018

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9,166

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ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
You can find a full deck tech on it here:
Deck Tech Video Series

You can also find a great game from a recent stream here:
Stream Highlight

For anyone looking for more gameplay with the deck trying to learn it here is an unedited 30 game session from a recent stream:
Tryhard Climb Session

You can also find my ETS Win with my latest version here:
ETS Win VoDs
MrRoboto Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Have you considered running the tribal power?
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Not enough tribal units to support it.
MrRoboto Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Then what would be enough in your opinion?
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
twenty plus or so
Brunodini Edited Eternal Version: 1.28.7
One of the sadest boring deck I've ever seen on Eternal: play "stupid" (OP...hello Valkirie Enforcer, hi commando !) units, put weapon on it and attack... nice, you win ! -_-

But, well...I suppose Eternal will be like this now, ... That's the reason the game just can't reach 2000 players the last 2 months. A few participants at this last tournament....

Dire WOlf, you could have created the coolest game ever. But, by trying to be like HS and MTGO, instead of using the best of that games, you used the worst... It's just sad.

Now , I'm only playing my daily quest (not every day), reach master for the premium leg and wait until the next month.
SapphireDragon Eternal Version: 1.28.7
If in your opinion, they took the worst of both Hearthstone and MTG, go play one of those instead of complaining.
Brunodini Eternal Version: 1.28.7
SOrry but I'm not a part of this generation who quit something when i do not find all he wants in it sorry, or throw something away when it's broken.

First, I try to alarm my own ways and fix things.

Althought , I'll quit after the next expansion (let's see what will bring the next campain also...) if nothing has changed. I would have done my part...
SapphireDragon Eternal Version: 1.28.7
But you are part of the generation that whenever you have a personal problem with something, your first recourse is complaining online? You know, just in case DWD devs are combing through eternal warcry deck comment threads looking for suggestions
Brunodini Eternal Version: 1.28.7
This is the only way I found to send messages. I did the same on the steam forum (the official forum is just a dead zone) and by mail. It's not freely complaining, it's ringing a bell, sending a message, alarming.

I don't know the reach, maybe a lot, probably less or even useless... but like the canary in the tale said: " at least, I've done my part".

And it's sad that, nowadays, as society has taken off all the vocabularies of criticism, someone who make some is calling a "complainer" (or a troll or wathever). I nivite you to read "the new spirit of capitalism" (from L. Boltanski) wich explain very deeply what I try fastly to do.

So if you have a better idea to make the game better, I would be happy to hear it.
AromaNova Eternal Version: 1.28.7
And still you comment on one random deck instead to try maybe the Eternal discord or some other official channel, i mean what the hell has exactly this deck to do with your opinion on the whole game?
Brunodini Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Euh....It's not a random deck... It's the deck wich wins the last weekly tournament. I did on the steam forum also many time. " I mean why the hell" are you complaining ?

But, see how it works well in the end ? :-) ALready many answers and post on this deck. ;-)
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
The deck is not remotely as simply and easy as u make it out to be and it is also a lot of fun to play. also none of the cards are "OP" they are just really good.
Brunodini Edited Eternal Version: 1.28.7
First, sorry for all my mystakes, I'm not a native, but I'm sure it will be understoodable.

The deck is not remotely as simply and easy as u make it out to be


^^

There are just 2 simple fast spells (torch and protect MD) and basics Eternal cards, so... well, it's easy to play yep.

That's probably the sadest thing in all of this in fact... This could be (and already have been) the subject of many books, so I'll make it short: mediocracy. Proposing (so promoting...) that this deck is not as simply as it seems is just the whole symbol of mediocracy wich rules people (players) now.

Eternal does not propose enough cards and/or enough mechanics anymore to pretend to be hard to play. This is why there is no control deck anymore. Now,
most of the decks propose just simple mechanics: trade and kill units. Few month ago, old Feln Control was maybe one of the only real example of a control deck (in a kind of MTG way: tutor, draw, removal, big spells,etc). Now, as the meta has change to simple decks (like yours), Feln control nearly dissapeared. At his last days, it lost channel the tempest, Celestial Omen, Feln blood Caster,etc. To slow... can not be played anymore. It has become more a midrange deck where the goal was to put a 5/5 flying aegs asap...what a challenge !

All this kind of games (like Hearthstone) had a shame result: as many games propose to win with less skills than before because they are easier,it just decrease the need of being really good and skiled. You just need to watch to many matches to see how bad plays are done from "good players".

I remeber I played vs you once, there is like 1 or 2 month ago. You played a Feln "control", I played a Chalice. I win 2-0. I didn't know you were on Twitch. SO after the match, I went to see you vs me. I remebered you were saying you did not understand one play of mine. You even said "it was not very smart"...
For me, it was very clear. But I was thinking: "well...it's kind of sad. This guy is kind of relativly popular in this game I guess... And he promote, in front of his viewer, that my play was not smart.... hum" In fact, I remember your explanation was wrong. This play just allowed me to win the game. You just did not see/ understand it. And , really it's ok, it's fine. I don't care. But it's just what's wrong now: casual pepole are become the "stars". Stupids persons are now everywhere on TV and on internet (I'm not saying, you are stupid ! ). Putting fire to your ass has more view on youtube than brillant people.

So let me be clear: it's really cool that you are making video on twitch, really. you build a project, you made it, it's really nice. I just would invite you to have more restraint about the evaluation of your skills, others pepole skills and game skills. Saying Eternal is not easy/casual just promotes mediocracy.

Also, I use the term "op" wisely. For me there are 3 OP cards in eternal: Valkyrie Enforcer, Sandstorm Titan and Icaria. If you compare stat and abilities, it's just stupid. The fact that Valkyrie Enforcer is not even legendary is ridiculous.
There is also "too good" cards (at the limit of OP) as " unseen commando" for example. Oh, look, the 4 cards I just talked about 2 are the 2 first played cards of the tournament ;-)

When 80% of the tournament meta is red/green/x because of 3 of these cards, well...there is OPness in there...





KappaPride Eternal Version: 1.28.7
> Now, most of the decks propose just simple mechanics: trade and kill units.

Meanwhile reddit complains 24/7 that there is not enough unit interaction. You should make up your mind.
Brunodini Eternal Version: 1.28.7
If I understood well "make up your mind",I don't get it...this is kind of the same thing no ? That's what I'm saying... More units interactions would bring more complexity. This could be an idea. But the game could just let player respond more: before the block after an ambush for example or after a a unit's trigger.

Or putting damage in the stack ? (when it has been canceled in MTG, this is the moment when the game started to be more and more (too much... ?) "easy".
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
None of the 3 cards you mentioned is Op. they are just just very good but fairly balanced cards. Fast Spells don't determine how easy or hard a deck is to play. I think you have a wrong idea of what makes sth easier or harder to play. Lack of a lot of options for easy fixes make a deck harder to play for example or mostly relying on units and maneuvering boardstates that seem unfavorable or tricky for example. I also didnt say the deck is super hard to play or anything but much harder than it seems since it is not just play ur best card every turn and win or lose. if u play like that you will not win half as much as u should with this deck and u can see that by all the people complaining about the deck not performing for them or being worse while people like aroma nova and i for example keep crushing with it over 100s of games. so instead of complaining what you cant do or complaining about things that are not even true like the control deck thing try focusing on looking what you CAN do and do better then ur experience will change.

You are making a fool out of yourself with the part about my skill, ur assumptions about me and mine and ur "advice" dude. If you lean out of the window further you might fall ...

Also decks are red because of torch. because torch has been one of the best if not best card in the game since the beginning and likely will remain so until it rotates. and justice is likely the best color in eternal for most of the time since it has great units and good tools for aggro control and midrange and a lot of the best multifaction cards.

but we got it you are one of those nameless people that no one has ever heard of and seemingly have never accomplished anything but are smarter and better than everyone else and dont play much because the game is beneath them or it isnt skillful enough. keep telling yourself what u need to sleep at night and keep blaming losing on luck of worse players i guess.
Brunodini Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Woaw... did I hurt your feeling that you have to be gross to make your point ? You are young and kind of a victim of society, but it doesn't excuse rudeness. I never accomplished anything ? ^^ You are just ridiculous. I won't introduce my life but but it well full in kindness and wellness. ;-) Blaming losing !? Who spoke about me blaming my loose ? I'm winning most of my games... (I'm reaching master every month just by playing daily quest... requiree a good winrate). Did you frustrated because you loose VS me ? I'll ignore you guy, you just become sad with this answer.

PS: Decks are not red because of torch. TOrch is there since the beggining, and if you look to decklist tournamenet, there were waaay less red deck (argenport, chalice, Hooru, Feln,...). You are just rude AND saying bullshit...do'nt reply back...I won't, and I report. "nameless people that no one has ever heard of and seemingly have never accomplished anything " is just a stujectif and stupid judgement.
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
I said seemingly not accomplished anything in Eternal or similar games otherwise I would have probably seen that nickname somewhere at the top of ladder or tournaments in MTG or Eternal for example yet you act as if u were super good and better than everyone. The only one that became rude here are you.

report whatever you want man. you seem to not understand half as much about this game as you think you do.and yes you don't have made a name for yourself in MTG or Eternal probably also not in HS at least under the name you post here and also have seemingly not accomplished anything noteworthy in any of those games. that's not an insult that is an observation. you are condescending and way fuller of yourself than you likely have any right or justification to be and are apparently not even aware of it. have a nice life. you are emberassing yourself here.
Grenadin Eternal Version: 1.28.7
http://steamcommunity.com/app/531640/discussions/0/1621724915779138599/?ctp=2#c1621724915800075554

There, his "accomplishments".
ManuS Edited Eternal Version: 1.28.7
:D :D :D Thanks. This was hilarious.

As I expected looks like one of those people living int heir own reality where they are their own biggest star and fan and way better than in the real world^^
Brunodini Edited Eternal Version: 1.28.7
I did not read, I just reporting for trolling beacuse I saw the last sentence. I' won't even read take a look anymore. ++
AromaNova Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Are you aware of the fact that the Iciara Blue and Tin Man's Deck in the Top 8 ARE Control decks? One of them is even creatureless.
Brunodini Eternal Version: 1.28.7
I understand why you are saying that. . Icaria blue could be considered as a control deck.

But I also disagree because of two point weapons and creature.

- Icaria kills control because of weapons. One of the reason why control is not powerfull enough in Eternal is the Weapon. 4 Runehammer and 2 starsteel daisho can just kill on T6 if tutorised with +2. A control deck doesn't such "early" pressure. Many version also run Sword of Icaria, Rkano artisan and/ or Valkirie ENforcer. That's definitly not a control deck in that case. How many time did I suffer of T2 Artisan, T3 ENforcer, T4 Hammer ==> loose. Icaria decks like this are just not control.

I consider Tin Man's Deck (like temporal distorsions decks) as control decks. I'm agree with. I played temporal distorsions deck a lot.

But for now (but let's see with next extension, they are just not good enough and present on the ladder to be considered. Temporal distorsion wasn't but, let's see with this "black" version,... i'll give it a try myself. ;-)

Thx for your post.
BillCosbatron Edited Eternal Version: 1.28.7
2 words: Lightning Strike
Brunodini Eternal Version: 1.28.7
you are talking about nerfing the torch to 2 mana or adding a "lightning strike" card (wich would be a baaaad idea).
AromaNova Edited Eternal Version: 1.28.7
He clearly is talking about the card lightning strike...4 dgm to an attacker
Brunodini Edited Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Oh ! ^^

When some one says "lightning strike", I'm thinking about that :
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=373651&type=card


My bad ! :p
Stutters Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Im liking some of the changes that were made. Still dont know how i feel about the protects, but glad to see the deck performing well.
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
i mean there was only one change really: cutting tracker main due not enough gunsligners/grenadins expected to have them in the main and some vanquishes added. protect is bad since the nerf EXCEPT in a deck with riders and additional uses like plate/hammer protection and such a high quality of units. 80% of the time they will just refresh riders as a 2 cost +5/+0.
AdmiralPenguinoid Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Would you say Protect is still good in a Combrei deck then? Or is Stand Together a better choice?
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
no it isnt. i think the card is almost unplayable outside of shelterwing decks. Stand is very different since it is clunky and meant vs global effects while 1 cost protect vs meant to combat tempo swings from cheap interaction at a cheap rate. but sure stand is fine i just think cobmrei doesnt have a lot of issues with cards like harsh rule anyway so not that needed outside of say the sb.
Silvernight Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Here, now everything is as it should, unnecessary maps are put on the shelf. Now the deck is brought to a beautiful view, perfectly, because the old tactics are working! I'm very happy for the deck.
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Slysoft Eternal Version: 1.28.7
I thought the same thing LOL