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ManuS' FJP Plate

Throne Deck By
ManuS
Eternal Titans

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Information

This is one of the new best decks in the format based on an original idea by Hulkbust3r that he used to Top 8 a recent ETS and took to the Team League play offs. I have been crushing with it on ladder lately as well as some other people. You can find a full deck tech on it here:
Deck Tech Video Series

You can also find a great game from a recent stream here:
Stream Highlight

For anyone looking for more gameplay with the deck trying to learn it here is an unedited 30 game session from a recent stream:
Tryhard Climb Session

You can also find my ETS Win with my latest version here:
ETS Win VoDs

Details

Shiftstone Cost
Does not include campaign cost
59,550
Premium Cost
228,000
Influence Requirements
2 2 2
Power Sources
14 15 13 17
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Deck Rarities
15 16 22 2 12
Card Types
30 10 10 0 25
Archetype
Midrange
Updated
March 5, 2018
Added
March 1, 2018
Views
7,267
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Comments

HilZen Edited Eternal Version: 1.28.7
I Think Rilgon, Hooru Operative, card very underrated, is a good choice for those who dislike Alpine Tracker in this deck. Witch weapon he gains aegis and with a spell double damage, this combination with Deepforged Plate and a simple Seek Power is insanely good!
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Rilgon is unfortunately a bit too underpowered i think.
ArconteSoze Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Hello, I liked the changes, the original Hulk list had the Darkveil Agent, were not they key pieces of the deck giving the birds and Unseen aegis again? In the rest, I liked the way the list presents itself, I'll do some tests and see how I go with it tks.

Sorry for bad English, blame google transllate!
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
No they were not key pieces. in fact they were really bad even he cut them. they are bad on turn 2 where u want to play ur 2 drops and even later they were pretty weak and slow. :)

No problem I could roughly figure out what you meant.
Stutters Eternal Version: 1.28.7
So, ive just got off a binge with this deck and, while i certainly agree the deck is good, i dont agree with your opinion that it is one if the best decks in the format. Ive had numerous games vs Skycraggro where im so outpaced by the time i start dropping anything that I have almost no time to recover, i consistantly lose to Big Combrie and Xenan decks who drop a single Sandstorm Golem, and i always find my plated dudes getting hit by the infinite amount of removal out there. Yes, having multicolor dudes helps dodge the annihilates, but vanquish is such a popular card right now, it never fails to find its mark. Even after bumping my protects to 4, it being 2 mana is still a huge detriment. Please understand, im not claiming to be the best player, but i do frequently make masters, so im also not the worst. I also get that your deck ideas literally shape the meta... but, i cant help but feel you're missing the mark with this one.
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Xenan is one of the few bad matchups I found. Big combrei is about even over the sample size that I have and also mekes sense in theory since they lack the removal that xenan has to make it a bad matchup in addition to the fatties.My winrate against skycrag is close to 70% the games you describe are not that frequent and make up the other 30%. Plate needs to be used on the right units and int he right spots to minimize blowouts. I often hold it back for as long as i can if i dont have an aegis unit and sth else i can do. Running more protects is no help since as u noted at 2 power the card is really bad. 2 are ok to make riders better but thats it. No worries. The claim that it is one of the best decks right now is based on my winrate, not having bad matchups outside of xenan so far over close to 200 games and being proactive, powerful, well rounded and nearly impossible to attack in a specific way other than palying good cards urself and having a lot of removal alongside the good threats.barely any other deck has posted similar winrates over this sample size and probably none of them has so few glaring weaknesses and bad matchups.
Stutters Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Thats a fair assessment. I'll play a little more conservatively with my plates and see how that goes. Thanks for the tip
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
You are welcome. Maybe the 30 extra games from my Stream where I went 22-8 also help some :)
Silvernight Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Alpine Tracker is a good solution, ahah. On the 4th move, the two-colored creature - are you serious? No, if you came in, then I'm happy for you, but I do not see the place in this deck for it. The Grenadines? So they are not there for a long time, Ronins and the others on the 4th turn usually die. But I like the idea of the deck, but it was in fact before, Vadius plate, it's not new. Thanks for answers.
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
This deck became a competitive thing with hulkbusters list making top 8 in the ETS. Sure people tried to put plate on vadius before including myself but lacking the results that hulks list and my tuning into this list provided. wanting to try and put plate on vadius is a fairly obv thing seeing how that is good if u find a deck that works with those in it. succeeding in doing so is a different story. this deck is the first that succeeded at doing this and hulk laid the groundwork for it and i built on it.

regarding tracker and the matchups it is meant for: i think u need to play these matchups more to see how they play out in reality which is not remotely how u describe them to play out or assume they play out. tracker is very good against both grenadins and gunslingers and very solid vs skycrag and icaria decks among others.
DerToast Edited Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Awesome Deck, lots of fun to play, I'm glad Plate made it back, you can literally feel your opponent's rage when you kill him with a Plate out of the blue (or should I say Primal?) :D
Thanks for the List!
I'm still not a 100% sure though if Alpine Tracker really is the best choice. I get your point that he's an additional charge unit that (a) smoothes out the curve and mostly (b) is especially versatile because the Ping to each unit makes him good against Aggro and charge makes him annoying to Control players, but I feel like the deck would work well against both archetypes without him
I think I'll try switching him to make room for Vanquish to see if the chances against Heart of Icaria increase significantly or rather to avoid losing to a single Sandstorm Titan which is an extremely strong card against this deck.
I guess managing your Valkyrie Enforcers is one of the most important skills required to get this deck to win against Time, since you really need to Find the Way around strong endurance units :D
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
If you dont face a lot of Mad Gunslingers and Grenadins you don't need tracker. vs the rest he is just solid. he was added for those 2 decks specifically and because 4 hammer of might is a bit clunky and we dont want to dilute the deck with too much situational removal and keep the powerlvl and threat density high and tracker is a good middle ground while more removal isnt. praxis has been a favorable matchup. a bunch of random fatties with little to no actual removal are not a particularly problem for the deck between fliers, vadius ultimate and the weapons. the more interaction they have alongside their fatties and titan the harder it gets. hence: praxis favorable, big combrei even, xenan bad. so if u see a lot of time in general and specifically xenan u need some vanquish also mirrors. would not run more than 9-10 removal total. it helps to try and learn managing board states and how you can beat fatties with a deck like this without the easy fix of vanquish since often u wont need it and can manage them just fine as long as they dont have a lot of interaction which is something i noticed a lot of people aren't very good at. there is a lot of extra footage from the stream session to watch that might help better understand and maneuver the deck in trickier spots.
Dogmayor Edited Eternal Version: 1.28.7
I pulled the 2 Alpine Tracker and 2 Seek Power and put in 4 Crimson Firemaw, for me it really put the deck over the top.
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
you can simply not cut 2 power and 6 influence sources form a deck like this. u just made the deck dysfunctional. also adding more 4 drops while doing so is even worse. the deck really doesnt want 10 4 drops and firemaw is also not a particularly good card in the deck and in general. wouldn't recommend that. but if u have to do not cut seek power under any circumstances. the only thing u can really cut realistically is 2 hammer to keep the curve reasonable.
Dogmayor Edited Eternal Version: 1.28.7
It's only helped since I've made the change. I like having another large flying threat with a reasonable power cost rather than the alpine tracker which has been useless more often than not and even then its impact was minimal. I will try your suggestion of replacing the hammer rather than the seek powers though, thanks.
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
As I said the necessity of tracker depends on grenadins/mad gunslingers. Otherwise you likely want to go back to more hammers/vanquish depending on what you face. Hammer is better than firemaw as secondary 4 drop.
AromaNova Eternal Version: 1.28.7
As the Meta isn't that Gunslingers/Grenadines heavy anymore the Tracker already moved to the Sideboard and vanquish made his way back to the Deck :)
Cimp Eternal Version: 1.28.7
People downvoting a deck without playing it at the very least 10 games? Pathetic.
This deck is good. I just won 7 times in a row, went straight from gold2 to gold1.
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Yep deck is great. Just plays out a bit unusual for this type of deck and requires some skill and creativity in maneuvering boardstates when you dont have a million easy fixes int he form of removal which the deck also doesnt need most of the time :)
I think the deck is possibly the best deck right now at least one of them.
So thanks for the comment and keep it up.
Silvernight Eternal Version: 1.28.7
What nonsense, why should I do anything, the deck is laid out, what questions can there be. Of course, I'll redo it, remove all unnecessary, I like the idea.
Silvernight Eternal Version: 1.28.7
A disgusting deck, there are no solutions, loses agro, heavy decks, the stove does not help, because there is nothing to pass the carcasses, the tracker is clearly unnecessary, why it is not clear. This is even if the color came, still does not play, I do not know where so many likes. The deck needs to be completely remade.
ManuS Eternal Version: 1.28.7
As usual if people are winning with it over large sample sizes and you are not then it is either the sample size or usually your fault and not the decks.
AromaNova Edited Eternal Version: 1.28.7
Maybe at least watch the deck tech before asking why there are trackers in the deck.

It's all a question of the Meta you are fighting, need more solutions? Well add more soltuions. Had Color Issues? Well maybe try a bigger sample size, you know variance.
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