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[Rank 1] clickbait title - Hooru Omniscience tempo

Throne Deck By
imestr8
WSG (We Stream Games)

+4

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Day 1 Masters at rank 1, playing somewhat dubiously throughout the climb. This is very similar to the skycrag omniscience deck I previously posted.

Not 100% sold on the market, but it works well enough. I would make sure to cast builders degree for 1 more often than amplified.

Omniscience should definitely be adjusted. Is this the best version of the omniscience deck? I don't think so, there is likely a better color combination. Perhaps Elysian or Feln.


Edit:
No changes to the deck so far. I have been thinking about giving Working Together a test in this deck, but to be honest, the current list has been pretty stellar so far. I have been easily able to keep a Top 5 ladder rank with very few games a day. Primarily on the back of being easily over 90% win rate.

Details

Shiftstone Cost
Does not include campaign cost
35,450
Premium Cost
217,600
Influence Requirements
1 3
Power Sources
13 25 13
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Deck Rarities
17 20 26 5 8
Card Types
26 2 27 0 25
Contains Cards From Campaigns
The Tale of Horus Traver [Set1002]
Awakening [Set1095]
Separate Ways [Set1155]
Archetype
Unknown
Added
November 1, 2024
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1,751
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Separate Ways
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Comments

Cocobean Eternal Version: 24.10.02
This deck is absurd. Haven't played Throne in a while, but rode this speedboat from Bronze to masters with probably 85% winrate.
imestr8 Eternal Version: 24.10.02
Welcome back
ZE1TGEIST Edited Eternal Version: 24.10.02
I don't understand how this can be 1st? I of course can't question anything if you got 1st with it 🤷. And the games at the top of ladder must be different. I just imagine a deck with a few torches and some Champion of Chaos just running right through you. Under the builder decrees, through the Hail (which isn't ideal in my opinion, in lower ranks you have to run 4 of these main because so much aegis/hunt/buff aggro shenanigans. And if you have to do all that to get it, then play it a turn later, you're too late. And 1 Permafrost ain't enough either. And it's not like your creatures are the best in battle. Other aggro stuff has a lot of abilities and stats that are better. All 22 of your 1 cost cards do little against being aggro'd. They're very dilly dalley. Then you run essentially ×4 2 cost 1/1's. 🤷 good deck on one hand. On the other, I just don't get it. Especially to be consistent to get 1st. If I ran this, I'd get wrecked 🤣
imestr8 Eternal Version: 24.10.02
I didn't write a response here, since I didn't think there was a question.
Since a bit of a discussion started below, I might as well share my opinion. The deck is not a control deck, it's not meant to have answers to everything. If you are playing this deck, you should treat yourself as the aggressor, pushing for as much damage as you can, while you set up omni - and you only need it to go off once. You sandbag jarral post omni to clean up. That's it, that's all we're trying to do here. The number of permafrosts is not important, it removes one blocker. Nothing it going under builder's decree, because you are casting it for 1 90% of the time. You're not needing many hails, because you play it in a way that it clears out some of their board and almost none of yours.

That aside, what are bad matchups for a deck like this? Things that both out-tempo you and can go taller, praxis recruit comes to mind. You do rely on your units a lot, so if we are playing against a control deck, have to be more thoughtful on how much we over extend, though check raise and decree are there for this too. Decree in fact should be used to prevent your opponent from having good turn 2-4s, it's meant to just be a small annoyance to create a constraint on resources. Everything to push that advantage before playing Omni.

Ladder these days is a bit of a joke, so me maintaining more than a 90% win rate, in a ccg that includes chance, should tell you somethings. I wouldn't get too hung up on the rank, but going 16-1 yesterday took me from 13th to 12th. This morning I woke up and I was 10th. So, rank going up and down is a bit whatever these days on how high mmr players gain points vs newer folks.


Vision of austerity has felt like the least needed card, and may need another counterspell in the market or perhaps something generically good.
ZE1TGEIST Eternal Version: 24.10.02
It's been a while, but I've ran Jarrall before. Definitely looking better now since how long ago I was using it. Still, he was what won most the games. Even IF I drew him late, it would still be dropping him and him still for the win. The card does work!

I think Vision of Austerity is just one of those cards where you're like, hmm I'm Hooru, and have a market so VoA it is! Like it's just a staple and I would have put the exact same thing. And I can see wanting a another counter spell too . Cheap counterspells work crazy well here. Maybe even that 2 cost one that hunts. For funsies. Beastly Disruption. Or Royal Decree. Would even for the "Decree".theme 😝 but I'm sure you'll pick something good.

I guess I'm stuck on the cast B Decree at 5 or more mindset. Ugh the wasted potential as a 1 drop. I get that though, here it works. HERE, everything is just weird. Kinda a combo deck and they're kinda like that. For lack of a deeper description.
imestr8 Eternal Version: 24.10.02
I agree with you here. I think the only reason a deck built like this works is omniscience. The more cards you "waste" before playing it, the more unreasonable Omni gets. I think Decree for 1 is very important, sometimes the opponent has multiple things to do early, but if they don't oof it's like a time walk. And the card advantage is the only reason not to do this, but with Omni, that's not a problem.

Beastly is what I was thinking of replacing vision with, and you're right about the auto include and see later. Although Royal decree along side builder's decree sounds pretty interesting.

It does feel like kind of a combo deck in that it's all in on Omni. Probably also why I like playing this version more than the Elysian.
ZE1TGEIST Edited Eternal Version: 24.10.02
Yeah, I saw the Elysian version. They each have their own thing. It's just a shame Unstable Form can't be played in them. For lack of targets really. Because I love that card so much. And it's an obvious fit, minus the having targets problem. But then it's like you add it... And next thing you know you gotta add Wildgrowth Druid, and Glen Fasciata. Which will make you think about cards Reshape.and others and you're playing a transformy entirely different deck in no time.

I dunno, a Skycrag version playing Grenadan Drone.and Grenadan land would love Unstable Form.

Did you make a Skycrag one? 😝

[edit]
You did! Yes but this says there's so many branches to this deck.. so many directions and ways to go. Tough playing 2 Bores main in that one. Great card for the deck but it's like, ya gonna draw it when ya need it?😅 [/edit]
abbaabbaabba Eternal Version: 24.10.02
We think alike
Rebel_ETC Eternal Version: 24.10.02
It does great, however, it does have some weaknesses and shortcomings. When you're getting your units consistently removed with no more market access for card draw, you tend to falter.
Vincent8307 Eternal Version: 24.10.02
Hi, do you think this one or the elysian deck is better?
Or perhaps even another one?
imestr8 Eternal Version: 24.10.02
Meaty questions.
I think they are both about equal. Elysian can deal with a wider field of decks, but the power is worse. I prefer the way the Hooru deck plays, based on my preferences. Ely has better catch-up mechanisms in the deck, vs Hooru trying to be completely ahead on tempo the whole game.

I think there are probably stronger decks overall that have omniscience. The problem is that Omni is such a warping card, that I think it would take multiple tournaments of competitive play to even get close to it. It's worth revisiting every deck that touches primal.