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Don't play garden in the main, it is bad.

Throne Deck By
goaychanhong
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The Glorious Gathering

+5

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Type

Faction

Details

Shiftstone Cost
Does not include campaign cost
30,050
Premium Cost
184,000
Influence Requirements
2 2 3
Power Sources
10 10 22 17
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Deck Rarities
11 25 37 3 1
Card Types
7 4 43 1 25
Contains Cards From Campaigns
Dead Reckoning [Set1003]
Homecoming [Set1005]
Shadow of the Spire [Set1087]
Archetype
Control
Added
December 16, 2021
Views
2,284
Eternal Version
Cold Hunt
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Comments

maslovk Eternal Version: 21.12.16
Love this deck, but can't do anything on gold II =\\ Shadow still better, can't draw enough power and do not have right tools in hand when it's necessary :(
goaychanhong Eternal Version: 21.12.16
I think this deck requires a lot of practice and doesn't always beat the meta, but so far I feel this deck is really good against slow midrange and aggro, I am glad that you like this deck.
ArrowofKira22 Eternal Version: 21.12.16
ngl your title intrigued me, would you mind explaining? I assume you think after the garden change it's not worth it anymore but looking at the market i don't think you'll ever grab it now like if you need relic removal going for sorcery into bullseye seems to be more efficient. I also have another question how are the 1-offs working with garden in the market? I'd cut them and max out the other spells, but i'd probably only keep the pyrotech for the burn and maybe re-read to cycle sorcery or incursion.
goaychanhong Eternal Version: 21.12.16
garden is bad because:
1) it now dies to bulleyes, which I think will see a lot of play after the buff.
2) since you can play bulleyes right now as a reliable relic killer, I think garden loses half of its purposes.
3) the ignore aegis part is nice, but icebolt ignore aegis on units too if you really need a removal through ice bolt.

Garden has became too vulnerable and fragile, and It only start to gain value if it kills something with ice bolt then resurface something important. Theoretically you still have 4 virtual copies of garden since you have 4 merchants. So the 1-offs are still nice, elemental fury and pyrotech explosion give you 2 ways to kill site which you will very often need to deal with, especially palace in kira decks. The 1-offs are there because sometimes your only way out of trouble is to market garden and resurface something, and our secondary win condition pyrotech explosion + sorcery combo is made possible with resurface garden aswell. I'll grab garden when I am in total control of the game, so I will grab garden to search for my win condition, or when I need to deal with problematic relic through aegis. Usually decks that play relics has face aegis as well, so garden is nice for that.
ArrowofKira22 Eternal Version: 21.12.16
Yeah that was as much as i figured out too, i fear now that some decks might rely on bullseye now too much and it doesn't even fix their problem if they run into relic heavy decks, btw considering fetching cards out of the deck I was trying talents main and that's how i was experimenting to cut garden and some of the 1-offs out of my list completly, because as you already said you only took garden when you're in total control of the game, and then you should probably be better off doing something else. And thanks for responding, getting some insight was definately helpful.
maslovk Edited Eternal Version: 21.12.16
The main puprose of Garden in market IMHO is to play "put a spell on top" and play it in 2-3 turns and to shut up aegis\counterspells. Other two options and final unit are helpful, but not unique,
1-offs are flexible cards. Re-read is absolute must-have for every heavy spell deck, Pyrotech is a burn, when you can't reach 0 hp with knifes. Display of honor is mostly for 2 more copies of Knife and has unique effect for the deck. I'm unsure about Elemental Fury, for me it's a possible card for cut.The problem is: you DON'T want to use it while Garden is active :)
goaychanhong Eternal Version: 21.12.16
Elemental Fury is a sweeper that sometimes deal with palace. You don't want to rely entirely on 1 copy of pyrotech to deal with site, it is too risky. Most of the 1-offs or 2-offs cards has multiple purposes, for example display can rebuy knife against aggro and deal with rost or revenge units. So I think we need to run very flexible card to deal with the problem of limited deck space. We want to answer everything but since we can't, we will just try to fit our deck with the most flexible and efficient cards as possible.
maslovk Edited Eternal Version: 21.12.09
1) What do you have against Silverblade Menace? Every single Shadow deck has it, and it's still 40+% of ladder
2) What do you think about Dazzles?
I'm looking for spell control as long as I play Eternal, but can't find something stable enough :(
goaychanhong Eternal Version: 21.12.09
I think dazzle is good if you don't like flicker. I have just desserts for silverblade menace, so you have to hold on your just desserts after they go to their market once.
maslovk Eternal Version: 21.12.16
Oh god, I didn't understand so cool interaction :) I've taken Ice Out, but Desserts are so much better and more flexible!
Speaking of flexibility, what do you think about -2 Torch + 2 Breach the Defences? I think, fast spell, ability to hit sites and destroy curses (e.g., cursed relics) are worth +1 mana and green dot?

About market. I think, that some cards of market does not have some cruel impact right now, but can be good in more than one copy. What do you think about replacing 1 or 2 Jennev Merchant with Wasteland Broker?
goaychanhong Eternal Version: 21.12.16
That may be just me but I don't like broker overall except in even deck.