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Top 5 Ladder Throne Winter Champion Big Combrei by svrQQ piloted by RoninX/Miol29

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svrQQ

+12

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Faction

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Went 18 - 3 and coasted through Diamond to Masters post-Endra nerf.

Big Combrei seems to be in a pretty good spot post nerf since you can ditch the excess stand together and silence effects for higher threat density and most everyone I faced was playing decks that couldn't deal with the density of our fatties/sword of unity.

This deck tried and succeeded in finding a spot between aggro lists that couldn't deal with Sword of Unity and slow tri-color decks that weren't running 4x harsh rules. It doesn't seem to have a good MU against Elysian midrange decks and will have to make a bunch of swaps if time midrange with Carnosaurs become popular post buff.

Qirin ascendant instead of Saber Tooth Pride Leader as an experiment in the market. Rarely had the body be relevant for some reason.

How to play:

Market your 2 drops like Teacher and Longhorn if you can't play them on curve and do not desperately need them to block against aggro.

Try to always ramp up and play minions ahead of curve. Slap sword onto fliers against decks that can build large enough boards to block well on the ground. Parliament for 2 Owls is perfectly fine in most cases. For 1 owl it's usually better to take the 7/7 or a Sword.

Cards you probably shouldn't touch:
Teacher
Tocas
Merchant
Enforcer
Sword
Behemoth
Initiate
Seek Power
Desert Marshals
3-4 of Ascendant/Telut
Ironthorn

Flex Spots:
Everything Else

Market Flex:
Warden against void decks
Qirin/Prideleader vs Relics

Refer to sideboard for possible alternatives.

Details

Shiftstone Cost
Does not include campaign cost
109,150

Premium Cost
373,600

Influence Requirements
3 2

Power Sources
21 20 16

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Deck Rarities
17 11 14 31

Card Types
44 4 7 0 25

Contains Cards From Campaigns
Into Shadow [Set1004]

Archetype
Midrange

Updated
January 26, 2020

Added
January 8, 2020

Views
7,530

Eternal Version
Promises by Firelight

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Revisions (Since last major patch) January 26, 2020


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Comments

RoninX Eternal Version: 1.49.3
I was dropping by to comment that Miol won the Throne winter champs with basically your post Endra-nerf list (card for card? Or one off?)... but I see you noticed ;P still a great deck!
sto650 Edited Eternal Version: 1.49.3
Takes the prize for most expensive competitive deck I've ever seen. And that's without accounting for the two campaigns needed as well.
RoninX Eternal Version: 1.49.3
maybe not a deck to start with, but if you are going to play eternal long-term, you'll want to have all these cards.
sto650 Eternal Version: 1.49.3
I've been playing for 2 years, and I have everything but the Marshall. Neutral comment is neutral. I just said it's super expensive, and it is.
svrQQ Edited Eternal Version: 1.49.3
Hopefully, we get another busted legendary 2 drop to replace the trail makers/longhorns/whatever, I'm still not terribly happy with that slot and maybe it's fine to just run more 3+ drops since 4 initiates + 4 teachers are already 8 early drops.
RoninX Eternal Version: 1.49.3
I played to Diamond I with combrei aggro, but I'm top 10 Masters with this list - card for card. That said, I've occasionally wanted a sweeper and I've almost never gotten the pridetooth so I'd consider swapping that slot before the warden depending on what you're seeing around you on the ladder.

Some more random card thoughts: the eight 2 drop 3/3s are great. Tocas is insane and beats combrei aggro and rakano aggro by itself. The Amri's choices have only been OK for me, whereas the Desert Marshal and Enforcer have over performed. I've often found myself wanting to draw an Ironthorn both in the mid game and late game. The one Telmut has been great, even if it doesn't have many sigils to fetch.

I don't have final recommendations to make but - despite my success with this deck as listed, so far - that is where I see some slack to play around with.
svrQQ Eternal Version: 1.49.3
what's your name on the leader board if you don't mind me asking?
svrQQ Edited Eternal Version: 1.49.3
What do you think about cutting SSTs? I'm trying it with only 3 now. I don't see many flier heavy decks and we can run the 8 silencing units which are more flexible.

SST's big butt isn't particularly relevant since we have lots of other similar sized units which are also more synergistic.

Then we can fit in more Marshals, Teluts, etc.

Like, I started back in beta where SST was always an auto include but maybe now we have enough cards to get by without him!
RoninX Eternal Version: 1.49.3
It is tough - SST bridges the top and bottom ends of this deck so nicely - especially as an accelerated 3 drop on the play. Many decks have to answer him with their 3rd/4th turn and then lose to Worldbearer and Ascendant. Still I think 3 might be a good spot. I like Shen-ra in the board even if that means it always costs two cards to play it, it helps turn around games that you stumble in and you never have it clog your hand when you are beating down. There is also Passage of Eons, which seems great vs. Mandrake chains and deadly units - but maybe going up to 8 silence units makes this redundant.

The power and flexibility this deck has in this meta remains impressive.
svrQQ Edited Eternal Version: 1.49.3
Unfortunately there isn't an option to let people co-author but keep me updated about experiments on your end! I'm mostly working on draft and am sitting around rank 160 in Throne right now.

also re: power & flexibility yeah we run OP time legendaries plus OP Justice effects attached to bodies.

The main thing about SST other than not blocking as many 5 damage fliers from before: Shelterwing, Impending Doom, Soulfire Drake,

Is that if you hit a merchant or Tocas on 3 power you'd want to play a 5 drop instead of float 1 mana.

How have the 2 Siraf been working out for you? This deck was originally designed as a midrange deck fighting the 2 aggro decks like you mentioned, and also random tri-color slow decks. She does work blocking 3/3s and grinding out control. Now that I'm in such low masters, I mostly fight jank combo decks that she is too slow for.

Also, I was thinking of trying the 2 mana Siraf instead. I haven't used her enough or found a table of her average rolls.

Lastly, I'm experimenting with Minotaur plate maker. Double Damage is great with Sword of Unity and also he's a mana sink for small amounts instead of needing 7 for Siraf.
RoninX Eternal Version: 1.49.3
Up to #3 now (RoninX in game) ... we'll see if I can hold onto a top 10 slot, there is a long way to go in the month. 8+ silencers are paying off big time as I continue to see a ton of Mandrake decks.

The Sirafs are definitely another flex spot. The thing is she is great vs. aggro decks. Being 3/4 and multicolored makes her tough to remove... but maybe the 4/4 minotaur is just better in that role if that is the need? As a mana sink she has been pretty mediocre. Needing to exhaust is a big downside unless the opposing board is empty. Whenever my opponents have an active Siraf they seem to churn out 6/6s and 8/8s, while I always seem to get a string of 2/2 and 0/6s. That said, 3 and 5 drops are key. I love platemaker in renown decks - but I'm not sure about playing him before maxing out on SST - though playing platemaker alongside small Siraf is always powerful.

Maindeck great parliments also get better if you are moving away from SST.
svrQQ Eternal Version: 1.49.3
Nearly back to top 50 with this latest iteration running that is much greedier than original. I also experience Siraf always rolling super low for me too and have had better results with Justice Siraf and Platemaker which I recall Valkyrie Lists running as 2-ofs.

- 4 longhorns - 2 Aamri's choice - 2 Combrei Siraf - 1 SST, - 1 Desert Marshal - 1 Amber Waystone

+ 2 Great Parliament + 2 Justice Siraf, + 2 Platemakers + 2 Telut + 1 Justice Sigil
svrQQ Edited Eternal Version: 1.49.3
can I watch you play? You're probably much better at piloting it than me. oh wow nice #3 at leaderboards right now

am currently running a lot of different cards, cut the longhorns since I rarely get value from them and am running platemakers and multiple Teluts and 0/5 Siraf.

svrQQ+6532
RoninX Eternal Version: 1.49.3
Sure. Sent you an invite.

As with most mid-range decks, knowing the other decks in the format and when to play the beatdown role and when to play the control role is key. This deck also really rewards knowing when to shift roles in game. Sometimes you can just roll an aggro deck by beating down on the play. Other times that transitions happens much later. Often times I like to begin the race the turn before I play sword (if possible).
svrQQ Eternal Version: 1.49.3
Glad to hear friend. Yeah I'm seeing a lot more re-animator and also thing with pride leader so I swapped him for a Shen-Ra speaks.

Yeah this is more of a mid-range deck so it wants to run the OP Combrei 3/3s package. The Amri's choices have also been only OK for me too and were an experiment. Probably better to run more marshals, I agree since seems to be a lot of silence value generators that don't attack in.

Yeah fetching Sigils is mostly win more, the debuff and free weapon are strong enough alone. Been seeing a lot of Azindel lately, making his 1/1s unable to attack is huge.
biologynut99 Eternal Version: 1.49.3
Good deck. Prefer it to the combrei chains deck recently posted.
That said, I did stick some chains in main deck just to finish off stalls, and it worked well.
svrQQ Eternal Version: 1.49.3
This deck is midrange, the chains deck is combo. We trade consistency for lolzy instant wins.
Kingneb Eternal Version: 1.49.3
What did you cut for the Chains? Thanks!
biologynut99 Eternal Version: 1.49.3
I changed a couple small things around.

In short, I don't have Siraf and lack 1 mystic ascendent, and 1 sword of unity so that gave me 4 spaces to dick around with.

I swapped Reality Warden for shen-ra speaks just because i alwaays like to have a wipe just incase.

Added chains has been working out really well. Can market it away if you really need to, but it's been the finisher I needed many times over. (Although sword of unity can finish really well when on something like a mystic ascendant with giant stats)
svrQQ Eternal Version: 1.49.3
Probably ascendants since they are both expensive pay-offs that the ramp and influence playing cards set up.
biologynut99 Eternal Version: 1.49.3
This is what I ended up with. Was t1 on rankstars meta monday last week, now yours is on this week! Grats!

https://eternalwarcry.com/decks/d/RU7GJv77YWc/big-combrei-little-chains-tier-1-meta-monday